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>As far as I remember, Mulder's suit was meant to look like the cheap and ill-fitting suit that a low-level, young government employee would buy for a dress code and because he didn't want to think about clothing.

1000% times better than what people are wearing today.

Today is so hoodified you have office workers in sneakers.

The white shirt, suit and trench looks so good. ALSO people where not as obese. This has of course an effect on the fit.



His uniform was pretty much the federal worker equivalent of the off-the-rack oxford shirt and chinos for a corporate cubical drone like in Office Space.

Yes, the tech world brought "casual everyday" to the office. But, ironically, the SF tech scene is full of designer t-shirts and jeans, so the obscenely rich and/or sartorial types can still signal their elite status among casual wear...

The Mulder equivalent today would be wearing a clearance rack hoodie from the megamart, rather than the hand-woven, artificially distressed version from this year's runway show.


You make the point for me.

An off the rack OCBD and suit with a herring or trench over is so so so so so SO much more stylish than "designer t-shirts and jeans" or "clearance rack hoodie from the megamart"!!!

Or do you honestly set a = between them? Are they equal?

We are truly lost, my god.

Explains why I have to fight to get a decent OCBD and Slacks. I have found it and never leaving.

Hoodies are for kids and african americans when in public and I am neither.

I do not mean runway style if you think that. I mean business and/or business casual. YES give me the 90s slacks, OCBD and blazer anyday I am trying trying so so so hard.


Personally, I don't care about fashion. I'm not in any way interested in passing judgement on fashion norms of this era or that era.

My real message here is, perhaps, old fashioned. I believe art's meaning is in the intention of the artist or author, in this case the show producers and costumers who did their work in the 90s. You can understand it by considering the context of their intended 90s audience. If there are records of their production decision process, that would be even better.

It is through this lens that my original post found mild amusement in this young person's misunderstanding of the show's costumes. In the originating context, nobody should consider the federal drone as fashionable. Rather, it signals the least effort the character could get away with. It expressed a "phoning it in" vibe. This person has other priorities and just wants to bypass the cultural gatekeeping of the time.

By comparison, I'd say Scully's clothing started off expressing the straight-laced, eager college graduate of the time who is trying to manage her appearance, on a budget. Something like "adulting" for later generations? I'm not passing judgment on that either. It's just the contrast that was there to establish characters.


> Today is so hoodified you have office workers in sneakers.

I'm not sure if that was intended as a dog whistle but you might want to consider that it's coming across as one.


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You're wrong. Style is subjective and it's abhorrent to suggest that fashion associated with certain races is inherently less tasteful than others. You should be ashamed of yourself.


I would be baffled if someone actually preferred the hypebeast style over 90s office blazer/suits of XFiles, but you do you king!


I don't think it matters what you wear, you will still be a disgusting, frightened little racist hiding behind your anonymity.


Are you okay my gentleman?

You can be a hoodrat in public with your sweatpants and hoodie, your mom thinks you look great! :) And your fellow hoodrats too!


you’re admitting this is a dog whistle?

on behalf of the amazingly well dressed colleagues over my career, post a fit and let’s see.


Yes.

On the second question, you make the mistake of framing it as a completely personal choice. But we are formed by our environment. I had no chance growing up in the 00s. Everyone had jeans and hoodies, maybe a sweater. I did not pay attention. I carried that into my 20s and only in my 30s have I started to care about my clothes and weight, which I regret so, so much I want to die almost.

I blame everyone. My parents are and where preppy but they made the mistake of thinking I would pick it up through osmosis somehow. But getting things handed to you or seeing, you dont learn tools, what things are called. I really have had to study and try on things, I remember I saw well dressed people in our capitol and HM models for inspo. 4chan fa board has helped a lot too but now overrun with zoomers but there are good threads.

I am too paranoid to post myself openly online, I have no instagram nor an active facebook so I will not post some imgur of myself here. But for work I tend to go with business casual chinos, OCBD and boots or loafers. You must understand, everyone is casual here and wears jeans at most.

Same with books and quality movies. It really is a struggle to find quality, but the internet does help. Like finding xfiles. Our state does upload good old movies to sort though the modern slop.




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